FFVII Advent Children Complete, The Changes and Extras
FFVII:AC Complete is finally available complete with English dub but no subs.
Seems they've made quite a number of changes - Re-recording the audio tracks, remixing the music and making slight changes to directions and scenes. They've toned down the coolness of the movie and have expanded on covering subjects such as Geostigma to give the disease a more emotional impact whereas before, you would have to have read On the Way to a Smile to know what it was. It's also a lot gorey and violent now.
Also great watching the movie in HD resolution. The rays of lighting, dust, textures are much more pronounced. So here I'm going to run through the changes they made and what extra 30 minutes of new scenes they threw in. Note that it is by no means an exhaustive listing.
Needless to say, there are big spoilers that links to fairly much the whole FFVII series whether as a game, movie or animation so don't read on if you hate them.
Right from the start of the movie, there's a new scene with Kadaj taking Rufus up to the building discussing why humans repeatedly destroy and create. Rufus responds they can't get a grip over their memories thus, this was how they overcame them.
In the Northern Crater, the shooting sounds are prolonged. I feel they kind of overdid it.
There's a better tour of Edge City so the viewer actually has a better idea of the kind of life people lead after the disaster. We get to watch a gruesome scene of a guy dying from Geostigma as all the black pus comes gushing out of his body. Good addition because it shows how deadly the disease is. Reminds me of Resident Evil actually, the scene.
Addition of Tifa listening to a radio in 7th Heaven reporting about the Lifestream and Geostigma.
Also a book and some Geostigma related photos on Cloud's desk about medicine which links to another new scene later. The bike fight that follows afterwards is extended and changed adding in more dynamics with Loz and Yazoo. I think it's better than the original.
Brief scene showing Denzel gazing at the photos of his parents before Cloud brought him to 7th Heaven... And a new reference to a chocobo!
The lodge has changed names from "Healin" to "Healen". There are also changes to the existing scene and script once Cloud is inside. Besides Rude returning into the room before being locked out, there's more explanation about Geostigma from Rufus and how he thinks it's Sephiroth's conscious in the Lifestream causing it.
A brief new scene showing the badly wounded Tseng and Elena as they are attacked by the materialising Kadaj and the other remnants.
Reno and Rude talking about their comrades until Kadaj and the others find them, streaming through the door. Like the part where the screen goes blank and Kadaj says menacingly, "I found you."
New scene that is actually from Case of Denzel, 1-4 which means anyone who missed the first story in the novella On the Way to a Smile will have a better idea of how Denzel came into Cloud and the other's lives so, another good addition here I think.
More Geostigma coverage as the girl with the moogle gets knocked over and no one wants to help. Links in nicely with the gruesome scene near the start of the movie. I think her extra screen time in this version of the movie has something to do with the staff agreeing "She's so cute" commentary track from the Japanese LE DVD.
Extended flash back scene for Zack, part of it coming from the PSP's Crisis Core's ending. Makes me want to listen to the OST again... We then hear Sephiroth's voice too as Cloud comes back to the present, taunting Cloud about how he's just a doll pretending he's sad and angry.
Detail in the CG is more pronounced in the HD version. Notice all the dirt on the character's skin.
And they fixed the disappearing glove.
When Cloud passes out next to Tifa, they changed the music to "Anxious Heart" from the game instead of using the original "Water" track from the FFVII:AC OST. Quite nostalgic hearing the tune again.
A new scene showing the children being taken away. Looks like they re-used the backdrop from the PS2 Dirge of Cerberus cutscenes.
More explanation about Kadaj's plans when Loz brings back the Materia to the Forgotten City, revealing that he knew Rufus was hiding JENOVA somewhere and was going to use the children to find it. The original short scene felt pretty pointless.
We also actually see Vincent shooting from under his cape now when he rescues Cloud. I think I've seen this from Dirge of Cerberus too...
New scene showing Cloud dropping off Marlene and explaining why he left them, linking up with the added Geostigma photos and medical book in his room from earlier. He's been trying to find a cure and also bothered that he can't protect anyone but, now he's finally decided to be the one who will protect them back and everyone precious to him.
It seems Nomura fairly much decided to make the movie more gruesome, throwing in more blood, bruises and dirt.
New scene showing Tifa holding Denzel's hand reassuringly when he is reminded of the Sector Seven collapse. She gets another fight scene too instead of staying passive while everyone battles it out with Bahamut in the background.
However, she gets blown away by an explosion while Denzel is surrounded by the Shadows. For that brief moment as Cloud speeds to the rescue, he remembers Zack and Aerith's sacrifices which I think helps build on the scene from earlier that he's finally made up his mind he wants to protect people instead of worrying whether he can or not. He manages to save them both just in time as we him maneuver his way through the falling debris with Tifa behind him.
New scene showing Denzel making his way back alone to 7th Heaven and gets a chance to kick some ass too, building on the whole theme that everyone's filled with hope and determination at this point of the movie.
The literally big fight scene with Bahamut that follows afterwards where everyone is working together is kind of ruined because they added in a few too many extra shots of Barret shooting from afar. It just breaks the tension during that fight because you have to wonder if those bullets are actually doing anything...
Turks get some more action screen time and comic relief...
As they help out Cloud by trying to take Loz and Yazoo out in a helicopter. Just watch Loz
New scene where Sephiroth gets revenge. I like how they added that resonating sound effect to his Masamune as they fought.
He gives Cloud a taste of Omnislash, the very limit break that was used to finish him off at the end of the FFVII game... Ouch. Then Zack appears from the Lifestream to give him some encouragement, reminding he must have the heart of a Soldier.
I actually find it stupid how the Japanese likes to portray their characters as almost immortal in their movies - Lots of bleeding, abuse, lethal hits but the characters just get back up as if they simply got a punch in the face.
Now you don't have to wonder how the children gathered at the church. Quite a good joyous scene with all the phones ringing and everyone rushing out of their houses.
And the movie ends with more tribute to Zack as Cloud moves his Buster Sword to the church.
Conclusion
All in all I think the additions and changes to the script was generally good, clarifying on many points of the plot which were too shallow unless you read the novella, "On the Way to a Smile" beforehand. Of course, some of the plot still requires you to have played the original game to understand what's going on such as Sephiroth's "resurrection".
I think it's worth picking this up again, even if you already own the DVD. The new direction makes the movie feel much more rounded compared to the over-coolness of the original.
With all the new music, you have to wonder if they'll release a "Complete" version of the OST later.
Zehry
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Xandria
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Lateralus138
Astra28
BreeZe
Ricardo
The comments its for the purpose good... and FOR THE FANS (REAL FANS)...
Lithp
I'm sending you a piss off letter because of HOW you write. Learn to type, God damn it!
Although, your overall complaint IS simply moronic. Wutai WAS designed after Japan, NOT China, & Tifa--& ONLY Tifa--looks more Japanese now, not that it really matters.
Now, on to other stuff that annoys me:
Sephiroth does not use "octaslash" or "omnislash." I wish fans would stop going, "actually, he does this," because they're wrong. It's an unnamed stabbing move, & it's not even implied to be a Limit Break--note the absence of the aura.
In Crisis Core, Sephiroth's version of "Octaslash" was a few slashes (which were blocked), & a final slash move, where he lands on the ground. That move is joked to be called "octastab," because it IS similar, & it DOES have 8 hits, but it's just a random stabbing move. Sheesh.
Final complaint (I swear): The complaint about near-immortality is out-of-place. Really, if you can accept the moves they do, you have to accept that they wouldn't be killed by the same shit normal humans would be killed by.
But that's not even why the complaint is out-of-place. It's put on the scene where Sephiroth stabs Cloud a bunch of times. In that scene, Sephiroth made it a point to stab Cloud in non-vital--but very painful--areas. Namely, the shoulder, the legs, and ONE stab through his foot & out his knee that scraped his face.
Granted, there is smashing him back down on the concrete, but personally, I'm not really sure that constitutes a lethal fall even in THIS reality. Either way, I don't think that's any worse than the shit that happens in your average American action movie.
That said, Cloud's jumping & sword bug me more than anything else in the movie.
Tommy
at some point in FF7 i think it shows clouds eyes being blue...notsur and most of the characters in this game Varrier from alot of places japan not being one of them i really felt that they tried to make most of the characters look Japanese tiffa out of every one looks japanese and barret.....i dont even know if thats the same barret they screwed him over...Vincent seems more secluded and Even they tried to mka eyuffie who is clearly chinese look more Japanese and red x barley gets to talk he say Grr at some point iv read Dezel smile and all the cases http://xcomprandomness.co.uk/ff7novels/ incase you wanna check up on them and it seems some pretty twisted stuff goes on just saying as an avid FF fan i hope they make more games that include most of the characters Dirge of Cerberus kinda sucked only played it for the story Crisis core erm....I know zacks cool n all but hes dead,,,,no offence
and sephiroth is he trully ever going to come back and stay alive all he did was borrow Kukadj's body not that hot and thats all i gatta say But really even if theres no Violence they should update ff Frequently i think they are saving 14 Slot just for that reason lol Final Fantasy X2=14! because they are coming out with final fantasy 13 and then versus and versus and 13 are completley different but they both have 13 in front of them btw those games are cool aswell bye! oh and please dont send me P#@$ off letters because of what i write
Licorice allsorts
I still haven't worked out exactly why Rufus and Kadaj end up on top of that building. They seem to be getting along quite well, don't they?
But Vincent's shoes are stupid. They are clown shoes. They ruin his otherwise epic coolness.
Sage1082
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Thanks for the correction!
Breed
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Maaya
I don't really want to buy this..again, I've bought it twice already... But maybe if I ever get a ps3 for blue ray player ahaha